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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:14 pm 
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I was zipping through Newton Heath on a TPX train a few weeks ago and spotted those... Had to look twice.

Not many Fluorescents knocking about in Manchester. - I doubt they work as it looks like the overheads have been lost years ago. Several colums missing lanterns too

Grimshaw Lane, Manchester

https://goo.gl/maps/8LfRm3Mi7RHpJ3ni9

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Is anyone able to ID them


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:19 pm 
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Re: Survivors off Grimshaw Lane, Manchester.

These are the GEC Clearmain lanterns 'Three Eighty' or Z8387. I recall the columns are also by the GEC.

I have been aware of this installation since the 80s, and I certainly remember the lights being operational until fairly recently (they were certainly still wired up in 2010).

Nb.I do have some photos taken at the time; I'll see if I can find them.

Anyway, the location is the main access road to the former 'Park Works of Mather & Platt Ltd, latterly trading as Mather's Foundry, The works finally closed down in July 2017.

The last time I passed along Briscoe Lane, the main access road was shut off by concrete blocks. I suspect the site is currently awaiting redevelopment, although I don't believe any further demolition has taken place since closure.

The fluorescent installation was fed via overhead cables, although GSV does indeed indicate these have since been severed.

Photos of the works taken in the 1960s illustrate that the perimeter road lighting installation once continued to the far end of the site. I would guess there may have been around 15 or so columns as originally installed. I think there are 7 now remaining, 3 still retaining their lanterns although a couple have had SON floodlights retrofitted.

The first column on the junction of Briscoe Lane is particularly interesting, as its predecessor's remaining cast iron base section still languishes next to it in the grass verge.

With regards to preservation of these huge lanterns, I know that enquiries have been made in the past, by others equally interested in saving them. There may however be difficulties in achieving anything constructive, certainly in the short term until the future direction of the site is decided.

That said, as is often the case the lamp posts are usually left standing long after the demolition crew has left. The fact that all three which are intact are well away from the main buildings, offers some hope that they may well live on for a little while yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:59 pm 
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I'm not sure if this counts as a 'survivor of the past' but even though Scunthorpe still has a large amount of concrete lighting columns, it is extremely rare to encounter any on a main road, but there is one on this road, https://maps.app.goo.gl/eUxFYGqb6MbUxnUk9 which I was surprised had never been replaced or at least had a metal sleeve fitted on the top of it, seeing as the other columns on that stretch of road are either newer steel ones or sleeved concrete columns. It was only just replaced during the previous weekend with a new steel column. I wonder why they missed out just this column for so long?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:10 pm 
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Cheers for the update GreatNorburyStDepot       

I was sure  I Couldn't have been the only person to have spotted them.


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I was mooching around in Cumbria over the weekend and spotted this installation in Wetheral.

https://goo.gl/maps/13d2Hd33c5yZTzsn6


Any ideas on the lantern type and lamp type?

It was daytime when I passed but imagine the lamp would be long OOS.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:27 pm 
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A few from the Autumn

Macclesfield Royal Fail Depot

http://www.locodocs.co.uk/coppermine/di ... play_media
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I was out for a bike ride with the little lad so I have no idea if they work or not.


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the dark lord wrote:
I was mooching around in Cumbria over the weekend and spotted this installation in Wetheral.

https://goo.gl/maps/13d2Hd33c5yZTzsn6


Any ideas on the lantern type and lamp type?

It was daytime when I passed but imagine the lamp would be long OOS.


AEI "Residential" for 2x 2ft 40w fluorescent tubes.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:18 pm 
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Not strictly a street light more of a Sox Floodlight

https://goo.gl/maps/yK79B1rstW43Qcfq6
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https://goo.gl/maps/vnqhGv729mEZrdxi7


Richmond North Yorks.

When I passed the lamp had a nice new look to it with a good clean rainbow effect visible, lantern was missing the glass front.

I doubt the lamp is new other lights have been changed to LED and I expect the extension post dates the lantern and has made maintaining or removing the light very difficult without scaffold.

Any ideas on what lantern or lamp wattage?


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the dark lord wrote:
Not strictly a street light more of a Sox Floodlight

https://goo.gl/maps/yK79B1rstW43Qcfq6
and
https://goo.gl/maps/vnqhGv729mEZrdxi7


Richmond North Yorks.

Any ideas on what lantern or lamp wattage?


The pub does seem to have been extended since the lantern was installed, which looks to be 1960 -70s.

Looking at the scale of the lantern in relation to the gable end, I would suspect the lamp would be a 90W SOX, with its gear mounted remotely.

Philips and the GEC would be strong contenders as to the manufacturer, although REVO also manufactured wall  / floor mounted sodium fittings. I will have a look through my catalogues and see if I can confirm this.

I have a similar fitting (by REVO) which utilised the 140W SO/H. It is cast iron in construction, with a thick plate glass sheet which slides into position on the front. The gearbox is mounted within the support yokes. It is an incredibly heavy fitting which still retains its original choke and Dewar flask lamp!

I've not yet tried to fire it up, but when I do I'll use a modern 90W lamp rather than the 140W. Despite its age, the original lamp doesn't look to have had a lot of use!

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I have just joined the forum, I have always liked the design of the cast iron electric street lights made by Revo of Tipton, who were located about 3 miles from where I live.  My area, the former Urban District of Coseley, had many cast iron Revo street lights, some with ornate swan necks, but in the years after Coseley was split between Dudley and Wolverhampton boroughs, most of the Revo lighting disappeared and the few that remain in Wolverhampton's part of Coseley have ugly 1980s sodium lights on top.  Dudley council removed all their borough's cast iron lights about 5 years ago

Not many other councils in the Black Country had cast iron electric lighting, apart from Dudley and Wolverhampton, although the old Sedgley Urban District (also now split between Dudley and Wolverhampton) had just two streets with cast iron Revo lighting.  All other early electric lighting was typically concrete, although I made an interesting discovery some time ago.

I was looking at a street in Wordsley between Brierley Hill and Stourbridge on Google Maps and I found that the 2012 image has a very short cast iron street light with a modern sodium bulb.  I am familiar with this area and two things I noticed were that all other streets of this age in the Wordsley/Brierley Hill/Kingswinford area had concrete lighting and as the street is from the early 50s, the lamp post appears too old because of its short height.

I have since found two streets about two miles north (also in the former Brierley Hill Urban District) that had the same short street lights until around 2015.  Although some areas of Wolverhampton also had very short Revo lamp posts, these were pre-war and they had thicker bases compared to these I have recently discovered. Weren't all post-war street lights meant to be higher?

I have attached links to the Google Maps images.  You will need to select the 2012 views to see the old street lights.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.47769 ... 312!8i6656

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.50363 ... 312!8i6656

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.50463 ... 312!8i6656


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