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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:15 pm 
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[quote="Sonsoxman"]Badajos road estate in Aldershot is a private road near an MOD base  and the estate still lit with  Hampshire spec green hockey stick column with Phillips Mi126  :D  https://maps.app.goo.gl/FbZDKgExJkB44zRq7?g_st=ic

Nice spot the MI 26 lanterns. They are the exact same spec as the pre PFI equipment. These lanterns aren’t in my view survivors as they haven’t been missed by the  PFI - instead these were likely installed but never adapted by HCC. To make things more confusing, it is likely Hampshire CC still maintain them on behalf of whoever owns them.

This is for example the case in Guildford. Guildford Borough council still to this day has a lot of SOX installs of Beta 5s (perhaps 400 or so) that Surrey cc maintains on their behalf. Most of these Beta 5s would have been installed at the same time as the rest of the old beta 5s which were replaced in 2010/11 time. Funny that the Beta 5s are still going strong and the original PFI equipment has been modified to use LEDs now (luckily by retrofit)

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https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2447562 ... ?entry=ttu
(Notice it’s painted in a different shade of green)

These are Surrey's preferred led lantern of choice (Kirium Eco)
These are installed in the exact same spec that Surrey would - but these use ZHAGA mini cells instead of urban control - again owned by Guildford.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.24616,- ... ?entry=ttu


Lastly in 2012 these arcs in ‘Surrey green’ (not exclusive to Surrey as Oxfordshire and other councils use that colour too) arcs were installed identical to those installed by the PFI but instead equipped with mini cells. They weren’t replaced towards the end of 2020 with LEDs like the Surrey CC owned units in Guildford,  again these are privately owned. I’m presuming these were equipped with Harvard nodes when ordered from Indal at the time but it’s easy enough to wire in a mini cell.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2395287 ... ?entry=ttu

I’ve also found 4  55W Libras  with a mini cell in green - again still not led retrofitted which would have happened around summer of 2020!

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2456858 ... ?entry=ttu


This is the case in many council it’s often hard to find out who owns the lanterns & in many cases the council will still maintain the  equipment- this also happens in Salisbury too where any private SOX is swapped out with an Axia 3 with a photocell instead of a node.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:07 am 
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Where PFIs are in place, the likes of Hampshire County Council or Surrey County Council don't have street lighting departments that maintains street lighting separately to the PFIs. You will find that the lighting is owned and maintained by the likes of housing associations, parish/district councils, etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:00 pm 
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Where PFIs are in place, the likes of Hampshire County Council or Surrey County Council don't have street lighting departments that maintains street lighting separately to the PFIs. You will find that the lighting is owned and maintained by the likes of housing associations, parish/district councils, etc.


Yup 100% not maintained by HCC as some of them have been replaced Indo Air LED lanterns and HCC only uses Phillips Luma gen1+gen2 and Schreder Axia 3.Also if the HCC maintained them they would probably replaced by Libras or Arcs during the PFI. Also for a council to adopt a road it has to be brought up to council spec including the street lighting which would mean the current owner has to replace the street lighting to to a lanterns that is used by that council.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:35 pm 
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Top-entry MBF lanterns seem to be everywhere in Guernsey, even around the marinas at St Peter Port. Side-entry SON is giving way to LED however, and the aforementioned lanterns might be running SON-E for all I know, I never saw them run.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:31 pm 
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Spotted today, GEC Z9454s on a double-bracket Stanton and Staveley concrete column near Newcastle-under-Lyme.

And on the A5013 Eccleshall Road just off M6 Junction 14, a location already known by some lighting enthusiasts, I'm pleased to confirm that a couple of Thorn Alpha 1s on cranked-bracket pole mounts still exist here and here, as well as the GEC Z9555 "Brick" near the roundabout. And whilst not quite so vintage, just a bit further away from M6 J14 the road is lit by a nice stretch of 10m Stanton octagonal steel columns with remote gear Philips MA50s, which was a common sight until not long ago but now also very rare and lovely to see.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:41 pm 
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This AC Ford 850 survives on a pole mount near Northampton. Disused but not removed, a modern column stands nearby.

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Quite a lot of these installations existed in the Northampton/Bedford area before the Northamptonshire PFI and Bedford LED replacements came along in the 2010s. There were still some in my village until 2021.

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An interesting installation, with a GEC Z8526 "Turtle"rigged up to the top of a leaning scaffolding pole at the entrance to a quarry near Newton Abbot in Devon.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:58 pm 
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Found a GEC Z9454 on a rather rusty 8m Stewart & Lloyds column just off Westwood Lane in Bexley. Another SOX lantern can be found behind it, which I believe is a GEC Z9554. It’s clear that these two examples have been long forgotten.

Link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xq9iUxd6V4aNLWrr8?g_st=ic


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:58 pm 
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In a "back of houses" location by St Denys station in Southampton is one of three of thee city's last known GEC ZD815 "baby flying saucers". It had an ancient mercury lamp in it which burnt to extinction a few years ago. Passing last night I spotted that the lantern is back in light. From a distance, it looked like perhaps they had swapped the landholder (though maybe not fitted it in place properly with it dangling loose) and fitted an LED lamp. May not be as authentic as original, but excellent to see a survivor given a new lease of life rather than them lantern swapping.


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