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Author:  Stelmer [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:22 am ]
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I like that lantern too.

Could've been worse and had a glary SON-T lamp fitted!!!!!!

Author:  Urbis Saturn Land [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:07 pm ]
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I quite like that heritage Lantern, shame it runs SON but even then the council should have kept with the white light principle and stuck a CFL lamp in, one with a high wattage (11w I think).

Author:  Phosco152 [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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Chichester is lit with SON and SOX apart from a very small area near the East Walls that has some MH lighting.

11W for a CFL is a very low wattage even for domestic use. You would need something like 42W PL-T to be effective for street lighting in that situation. You couldn't use 36W PL-L as the lamp would be too long.

Author:  mazeteam [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:41 pm ]
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11w is used in signlights, but that's normally about it. 24w PL-L gives out about the same level of light as 80w mercury, whilst 36w and 55w are suitable for replacing SOX lanterns of respective wattage lamps but require longer lanterns to accomodate them. But for the compact PL-T version, these are best in the 'point light' source lanterns, with 42 and 57w being ideal for street lighting.

Author:  Urbis Saturn Land [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:11 pm ]
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Phosco152 wrote:
Chichester is lit with SON and SOX apart from a very small area near the East Walls that has some MH lighting.

11W for a CFL is a very low wattage even for domestic use. You would need something like 42W PL-T to be effective for street lighting in that situation. You couldn't use 36W PL-L as the lamp would be too long.



Aren't those the square based, 4? pin lamps?

Author:  mazeteam [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm ]
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yep

Author:  Urbis Saturn Land [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:47 pm ]
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Hmm they're the same ones which are used in the First Class area on TPE.

Opallo's use PL-T don't they?

Author:  mazeteam [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:48 pm ]
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those round downlights can operate various PL-T lamps (13w, 18w, 42w, and more unique ones run 10w PL-T or even 9w PL-L lamps)

Urbis Opalos and Thorn Jets run 42w PL-T lamps (well the York ones do). My Opalo has a 42w PL-T lamp, and you may remember seeing lamps like it in the lucky dip boxes at the poppleton depot.

Author:  Urbis Saturn Land [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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I remember seeing a smashed one in the Lucky Dip bins.

Author:  tobyjtb [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:01 pm ]
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I think the greatest heritage lantern has to be the Sugg Arc. These are used in Edinburgh and look fantastic on the Sugg-made repro cast iron columns. Many of the original columns have had their 90w SOX lanterns replaced with teardrops, namely DW Windsor Strands. I must admit the Strand is not a bad looking lantern, but they just don't look right on the centenarian Mackenzie and Falkirk columns.

The best looking teardrop lantern in my opinion is the Sugg Rochester, and bizzarely the bigger the lantern the better it looks. The smallest Rochester looks to be most realistic in size to the originals, the ones in the centre of Shrewsbury look fantastic. the next best teardrop would probably be DW Windsor Strand. The Urbis Albany is by far the ugliest, from its fat canopy to its exaggerated "U" bowl.

But Urbis heritage installations can look good. Here are some in my hometown of Bury St Edmunds.
Urbis Karl Johans on Urbis Bury St Edmunds columns in Angel Hill
Urbis St. Giles in Eastgate Street. Also note the smaller St Giles lighting the underpass.

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