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Author:  Gramma6 [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:04 am ]
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It looks like a GEC lantern with a Phosco canopy plonked on top to me!  :lol:

Author:  Claire [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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I think that they maybe a Seimen's (possibly even a late GEC) product. I'm pretty sure that they did a range of 'traditional' style lanterns using the base and cones (12" & 16") from the old GEC Z56XX -Z57XX geared series lanterns to create them. There are some of these in Cossal, Nottinghamshire that use the shorter 12" cone, but run 70w SON lamps.

Here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=cossall ... 7,,1,-7.75

Author:  Gramma6 [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "Heritage" lanterns

Yeah I reckon you're right Claire, those are definitely not Phosco lanterns. There were some Phosco P111 heritage lanterns in Blackpool until recently to compare these examples above with. The PFI has now claimed these and they've been replaced with Urbis Cabrios.

Author:  mazeteam [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:36 pm ]
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That's what was buggine me, the bowl taper is too harsh to be a Phosco bowl, and tha base casting too big. I didn't know Siemens/GEC ever made heritage post top designs like that.

Author:  Gramma6 [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:52 pm ]
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That said, the GEC product range was so vast it was hard to keep up with their many designs!  ;)

Author:  Urbis Saturn Land [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:41 am ]
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In a different thread, mazeteam wrote:
Here's one from York
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=queen+str ... -6.88&z=12

This column is NOT a heritage one... it has been standing there for decades and originally held a Carbon Arc lantern - as archive pictures testify. This is probably one of very very few columns where an Albany doesn't look out of place. If this ever comes down, at the very least the bracket will be saved, as somebody has dibs on it who'd likely be the guy taking it down!


The Albany oddly enough does suit column. Why aren't all brackets produced like this nowadays?

Author:  mazeteam [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "Heritage" lanterns

Unfortunately more complicated brackets are more expensive to make and buy, but are also more prone to corrosion where bits join. To be honest, it's really only Kingswood that seems to be a popular heritage manufacturer that seems to sell brackets as intricate as these.

Author:  Gramma6 [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:16 am ]
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Are Kingswood a more expensive manufacturer compared to, for example, Urbis? I would imagine they are because of their more ornate designs but then I wonder because they're a smaller manufacturer and so presumably have less overheads?

Author:  mazeteam [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:10 am ]
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I would presume so. My catalogue only describes the lanterns and brackets and columns they offer and doesn't show prices - like for most catalogues for these types of products! Given a Windsor type lantern (whather it be an Urbis Abbey, DWW Windsor, or by another manufacturer) generally costs around about £400, and this price was told me 2 years ago, I would well expect that the other products on this theme will be equally costly.

If anybody is interested, I could put up one or two pages from the catalogue I have. Kingswood also do some more normal looking lanterns... and some of their lanterns use the same optical engine as the WRTL 2000 series.

Author:  Gramma6 [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:48 pm ]
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Yeah I would be interested to see the Kingswood catalogue. It might help me identify a few 'mystery' lanterns in my area!  ;)

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