Again, a number of those non-PFI spec installations are on unadopted roads

What an excellent post with lots of detail. Disappointed at a one liner response from another member as clearly it’s taken you a long time to write  that.

I have a good knowledge of Surrey cc’s lighting stock so I’ll do my best to provide explanations where I can.


Surrey cc do still adopt street lighting, I mentioned this on another post and was quickly reminded how wrong I was (but in Surrey’s case I’m not!). In fact that’s what your first GSV shows us. A good chunk of the residential lighting in Ash is owned and maintained by the parish council, mainly using SON thorn Riga lanterns and cheap LEDs. You will still see handfuls of Libras and now Kirium Ecos (formerly Arcs) in that town. On the side notes, They are actually looking to adopt the private lights around Guildford in 2024.



Yes I saw the Camberley stock too, I am particularly impressed with the Pride columns they look fantastic. I am presuming they will use black coloured Kirium Ecos when they order them in. At present there is a material shortage for LED lanterns, all councils are facing delays with lighting stock. Essex cc as a side note have to use a mix of Kirium Ecos and Axia 3s due to shortages. Surrey cc like to keep lighting mostly uniform so I think they’d rather wait. Also, due to only main road lanterns being updated, they only need something like 22,000 replacement led fittings. Essex needed 83,000 lanterns!


The surviving Farnham Arcs I'm not to sure, however generally roundabouts and busy roads need extensive traffic management. This is expensive and time consuming. Also, some the the Arcs are under power lines which creates a huge risk issue. Another thing is to consider, the Arc lanterns are on long brackets and so I’ve seen I happen in only a handful on locations in Surrey, they may wish to chop the brackets back. The lanterns haven’t been forgotten, this is a calculated move as one of the arcs has had a branch node fitted to it to keep the rest connected for now.


The Arcs that seemingly have been missed are next to a new estate. The road will likely be changed (eg pavement amendments, sewage works, electricity works) and so they are holding back on lantern replacements as it’s likely column position will change, when this happens the lighting will probably change to kirium pros. A document ( https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/asse ... .pdf#page6)
outlines that if the developer needs to change the lighting OR they want the lighting adapted by Surrey cc they need to use tool-less entry  lanterns (Surrey suggest the Kirium Pro). It’s funny as if it was at the cost of Surrey cc they’d settle for the Kirium Eco which isn’t tool less entry.

The Arc and Alpha 8 will most likely come under the control  of Woking. Some town councils still contract out the council to do maintenance so potentially should one of these lanterns need swapping out for led a Kirium eco might be fitted with a ZAGAH photocell rather than a node.

The green Arcs fitted by the M3 have been fitted as a result of development and construction of that roundabout. Due to the nature of the environment the lanterns are in  (high speed), it’s safer to have crash safe columns. The columns  are in the classic Surrey green. I’m presuming the site will be visited for an LED update when resources become available.

Tylehurst Drive is a private road. Most likely to still be maintained by Surrey cc as columns are in the Surrey green colour.


The green Phillips iridium would have most likely been installed by the new build developers that you can see it’s on the road opposite to the fixture. Not sure why it hasn’t been done though.

Thank You for your response
The Arcs near M3 were already crash safe but lost there bracket or had there columns replaced to brackets less ones and they are probably installed by the developers
The green Iridium is possibly from before the PFI as Iridiums were used by
SCC and was never changed or road was never adopted.

Also the streets lights that  haven’t been replaced yet including ones I mentioned are being replaced looking at SCC website. https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/asse ... me-V28.pdf

There a quite a few of privately owned roads in Ash some SOX exited there until quite recently.
Also some MOD owned lights in Surrey in Bisley.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/xitTsNMnSiQMa5F67?g_st=ic

Some Urbis Albany in Deepcut on a possibly private housing estate.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ed9RemrBmpbtDcTm6?g_st=ic
Also I don’t believe that the ZX1 on the unadopted road are SCC
Maintained just because they have a green lamppost. The road has been built to council spec but never adopted. Its definitely maintained by a private
Company and not the council.
Same thing with this street just off The Avenue in Lightwater.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HMnjr3R9MoM6and38?g_st=ic

The black Arcs on Charles Street, Camberley were replaced between early September and early November with black Kirium Ecos. The ones on Park Street including the  
green coloured Arcs running SON were still there as of mid November.