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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:10 pm 
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What's that poking out of the top of this bus I wonder?

Possibly a Revo Dalek. The bus is worthy of note too: K9 YCL - it was THE FIRST Alexander Royale / Volvo Olympian ever to be produced, and this was the first generation initial prototype. It was built for Yorkshire Coastliner (hence the registration YCL), and was notable for having one-piece front windscreens and upsweep front window wipers (as opposed to 2-piece split windscreens and side-sweep wipers on later versions). In it's Coastliner days, it also carried a large silver and blue crown motif on the radiator grille, and the word ROYALE emblazoned along the rear. Sadly, it no longer sports the original features that made it unique (as replacement parts have been required over the years), and so only the registration marks it out as different.


Sorry this is a bit off-topic, considering it's my first post, but surely REVO never made a light called the Dalek?

And to correct you, That was not the first ever Alexander Royale bodied Olympian, that was L8YCL, new in October 1993... Like L9YCL (which was actually new in May 1994!) it was new to Yorkshire Coastliner and is now with Geldards-I saw it in York the other week! I also want to point out that neither of the L-YCL wore the crown motif- only the 4 M-UYG Olympians had this...

Also worth of note (and a bit more on-topic too!) is that the streetlight outside my house hasn't worked for the last few nights! It needs fixing!


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Brighouse has lost an Alpha 3, it has been replaced by an Arc there is now only a handful of these relics left.

- Two on Commercial Street, lost bowls
- One at Thornton Square, still retains its bowl.
- One on Bethal Street, still retains bowl and one on Market Street, also retains bowl.

The rest is either Alpha 8's or Arc's.

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Mattemo wrote:
Sorry this is a bit off-topic, considering it's my first post, but surely REVO never made a light called the Dalek?


O believe me they did! :D

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Also worth of note (and a bit more on-topic too!) is that the streetlight outside my house hasn't worked for the last few nights! It needs fixing!


Do you know what type of streetlight it is?


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Sorry this is a bit off-topic, considering it's my first post, but surely REVO never made a light called the Dalek?


O believe me they did! :D


All together now.... Oh no they didn't.

REVO never made a lantern called a "Dalek". Some collectors simply call them "Daleks" because of the dimples.

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Okay, technically they didn't! I thought Matt was claiming that the actual lantern itself didn't exist.


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I have found out from the yahoo group, that certain parts of York (possibly around the university and the city centre) were lit by Revo Stella's and Lunella's
http://www.simoncornwell.com/lighting/m ... /c6254.htm

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I was around the area of my old house again today - and the column opposite my old house IS a replacement. the base of the previous one is still there, but bent a bit - so it will have been an RTA knockdown, but the base is still live. A couple of streets away, and a top entry Beta 5 on concrete column (which had trapped a phone wire between the lantern neck and the bracket) has a new column and QSS alongside... I don't think the new one is working yet, and it may be a CDO lamp inside (though I can't be sure). And also, the street opposite Mill Lane at the junction of the East Parade/Layerthorpe min roundabout (the name of the street itself escapes me at the moment) has a new column at the roundabout. there is no lantern on it yet, and a marker is partway up the column, so it may see it's height reduced in future weeks... but I shall have to check that street in a day or two, because other columns along there have Eleco lanterns fitted that are of interest.

(I do have pics of the QSS columns, but I can't be bothered to upload them yet!)

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More Alpha 1's in Calderdale - this time its in Sowerby Bridge.

So we do have a fair few left and not just two in Halifax as I originally thought.

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The Eleco Welwyn 1 and the two GEC Z5355's in Wheldrake are still standing. The two abandoned tungsten lanterns on Murton Lane are still there, and still no connections to the Thorn Jets. I am wondering if these have all been forgotten about: whether Wheldrake is thought to have been finished, and if whoever is supposed to sort out the jobs at the service transfer company (probably NEDL, considering this is a direct transfer from overhead power lines in Murton) has either not got the job sheet or has misplaced it. The wood poles on Murton Lane look like they may have board fuses at the top - if so and the line after these fuses is dead, then in theory the new lanterns could be connected up anyway and then Amey contact NEDL or whoever is responsible for the supply so that new fuses are installed.

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I am perusing a website of old York images, and have found a few gems.
You may need to go to this page first, and open the gallery page, before the below links will work.
http://www.imagineyork.co.uk/warning.html



Petergate: This image has been taken during WW2... and there looks like an open lantern on the left hand side. Possibly a Revo Stella or Lunella, maybe
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

This picture has been taken at the early part of WW2, and again is in Petergate. For those who know York city centre, where Petergate and Stonegate meet at a crossroads (Stonegate leads into Minster Yard, and there is the York Minster standing in front of you as you look down the road) there is a massive cast iron column. I had wondered if this had been a repro, as it has an Urbis Albany installed... turns out it isn't a repro, and the Albany is actually damn close to what the original lantern installed here was!
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES
The bracket is the same too

This next one is Petergate in 1980. The big column to the left of the image is the one shown in the previous picture. If you look down the road, there is a building with scaffolding on it - the next building from it has a wall bracket and an open lantern fitted
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

Those pics were from this page:
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... ity+Centre

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Huntington Road in 1982, and the River Foss has flooded. The S&L Columns have what look like GEC Z9554's installed - which would make sense, as it's sister road (Haxby Road) still has them installed.
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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Hills Yard, Walmgate, in 1933 - and the prominent feature is the clockwork-controlled gas lantern
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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Holgate House in 1903
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

Holgate Road... A tram is coming towards them down Holgate Road. This tram would have been on the Haxby Road and Holgate Road route - which was constructed in 1909 and required the strengthening of Lendal Bridge and the reconstruction of the Holgate railway bridge. In 1909 the city rejected an offer by Thomas Tilling to run petrol-electric buses so trams were not challenged by buses until 1914
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES
Stelmer may be able to work out where this image is... Especially if I say that this junction now has a Triple-Headed column with Urbis ZX3's on it. The tram shelter is of the same design as still-surviving tram shelters at Clifton Green and at the Heworth Green/Malton Road/Stockton Lane roundabout.

Cecelia Place in 1933 - note the open lantern halfway down on the left
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

Holgate Bridge, 1990's. Those with a very keen eye may be able to make out a Revo Dalek (top entry) hanging on conduit from the first "straight" overhead beam. Follow up with your eyes from the woman walking with her son, follow that overhead beam across to the middle section, then follow that middle section back towards yourself - and the line of this beam is interrupted by the Dalek. The lanterns were replaced several years ago by Urbis Limpets (2 Daleks replaced by 4 Limpets), and at the time of replacement Amey wanted them to be offset... as the Daleks were right in the middle of the road, so lamp changing was challenging (especially with how First bus drivers in York are!)
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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1980, Whip-wa-whop-ma-gate (the shortest street with the longest name - the name itself was rendered Whitnourwhatnourgate in the sixteenth century, the name began as an Old English joke on the street's size, translating roughly as "What a street! Call this a street?") and above the Mercedes van is a Revo Monarch column with Revo Horizon lantern. the column still stands, but within the past 2 weeks, a QSS with CDM-T lamp has been installed, replacing a QSM with SON lamp.
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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No streetlights here, but this is the Haxby Road tram terminus - roughly 1914. This is at the junction with Rose Street, and the hill behind is actually the bridge going over the Foss Islands Branch Line (which led to the Derwent Valley Light Railway), and on the other side of the bridge is the Rowntrees/Nestle factory. in the 1950's/60's a new bridge was built parallel to the existing bridge, and the two were joined together to provide the existing bridge over the former railway
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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Two images you have to see now.

This one is the frontage of the Rowntrees factory in about 1950. The small building in the middle is the Joseph Rowntree memorial library, and the bus (possibly a Bristol, but Claire may know better) is the number 12 to Huntington and Haxby. The lighting column in the foreground is to illuminate the crossing in front of the bus - and has a massive outreach, the lantern can be found if you look in those trees! (follow straight up from the walking man dressed in black in front of the bus)
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

1950, the entrance to the City General Hospital (now part of York st John university) - and a rather grand column stands in front, with an unknown open lantern
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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If you wondered what lanterns New Earswick used when it was first built, this image answers it... in a "What the ...." kind of way!
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES
a wood pole, and the biggest side road lantern I've ever seen!! At least when the Eleco Ways were installed, it was a step down in size terms!

So this is why this corner of the village was called "IVY PLACE"!!
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

Aerial view of early New Earswick, and my original dates of the village have been proven the wrong way round! The road going up to the top left corner is Haxby-bound - and there are NO houses on the west side of the road (I originally thought the west side was built first)... and all these houses shown in the picture are the streets I have managed to recover Eleco lanterns from
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES


One worth a look:

The date of this image is not known, possibly 1950's, but this is when the Footstreet areas were being remodelled... and lighting columns have appeared, rather suprisingly sporting Revo Leicester post tops! The columns look like the Eleco columns still around today (but now on their 3rd generation of lanterns).... I believe the lanterns would have tungsten lamps in.
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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New Street, city centre, in the early years of WW2 - and we have catenary lighting!
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES


Ouse Bridge:
floods of 1931
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

1892 - and look at the massive gas lanterns
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

Possibly 1920's, with tram lines going over the bridge. The large building on the other side of the bridge is the Boyes department store
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

1950's onward
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

1900 - with Carbon Arc lighting
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES


Blue Bridge used to have cannons either side of it!
http://library.york.gov.uk/uhtbin/cgisi ... YORKIMAGES

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Thorpe Edge, Bradford.

There are some old traction type columns still in use along with BTH / AEI Ambers fitted. On a side street there are some Thorn Precincts, and a few are the dual type.

I'm going to have a look on GSV for the links.

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